WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.130 --> 00:00:03.680 - [Narrator] Today in Judge Karen's Court. 2 00:00:03.700 --> 00:00:07.260 A car sale between co-workers started off sour. 3 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:08.750 - Did you make the payment? 4 00:00:08.770 --> 00:00:09.820 - No I did not. 5 00:00:09.840 --> 00:00:10.890 - Why didn't you make the payment? 6 00:00:10.910 --> 00:00:12.880 - It was a lemon. 7 00:00:12.900 --> 00:00:14.600 - [Narrator] Then turned bitter. 8 00:00:14.620 --> 00:00:16.900 - So I decided to go to their home, 9 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:18.190 knock on their door. 10 00:00:18.210 --> 00:00:21.120 - He disconnected my satellite dish. 11 00:00:21.140 --> 00:00:22.670 - So you thought if you shut down the TV 12 00:00:22.690 --> 00:00:24.260 they'd say comin' right out? 13 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:25.090 (audience laughing) 14 00:00:25.110 --> 00:00:26.440 Is that why you did it? 15 00:00:26.460 --> 00:00:27.610 - Perhaps right. 16 00:00:27.630 --> 00:00:30.600 [Narrator] And ended with a sweet old lady. 17 00:00:30.620 --> 00:00:32.470 - Okay what about her neighbor's doors? 18 00:00:32.490 --> 00:00:33.880 - I never knocked on her neighbors doors. 19 00:00:33.900 --> 00:00:34.970 - I disagree. 20 00:00:34.990 --> 00:00:38.140 - I'm here to testify that it was this man, 21 00:00:38.160 --> 00:00:38.970 Tom, 22 00:00:38.990 --> 00:00:40.750 that was knockin' on my door. 23 00:00:40.770 --> 00:00:41.670 - It's a lie your Honor. 24 00:00:41.690 --> 00:00:43.480 - Well she's got your picture in her hand. 25 00:00:43.500 --> 00:00:44.920 (audience laughing) 26 00:00:44.940 --> 00:00:49.240 [Narrator] Real Judge. 27 00:00:49.260 --> 00:00:50.870 Real drama. 28 00:00:50.890 --> 00:00:52.910 Real justice. 29 00:00:52.930 --> 00:00:58.040 And now you're about to enter Judge Karen's Court. 30 00:00:58.060 --> 00:01:01.690 Plaintiff Thomas Teichert is suing his former co-worker 31 00:01:01.710 --> 00:01:04.440 for the remaining payments on a car he sold her. 32 00:01:04.460 --> 00:01:06.810 Thomas says when the defendant and her boyfriend 33 00:01:06.830 --> 00:01:08.630 were in desperate need of a car, 34 00:01:08.650 --> 00:01:10.870 he stepped in to help them out. 35 00:01:10.890 --> 00:01:13.860 But Thomas claims the defendant stopped paying for the car 36 00:01:13.880 --> 00:01:16.070 he sold them almost immediately 37 00:01:16.090 --> 00:01:20.360 and he's been chasing her down for payment ever since. 38 00:01:20.380 --> 00:01:23.240 Defendant Nancy Slack argues she would have kept 39 00:01:23.260 --> 00:01:26.350 paying for the car if it weren't a total lemon. 40 00:01:26.370 --> 00:01:29.620 She says not only did Thomas sell her a jalopy, 41 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:31.640 but he stalked her and her boyfriend, 42 00:01:31.660 --> 00:01:33.000 peeked in their windows, 43 00:01:33.020 --> 00:01:36.450 cut off their cable and even harassed their neighbors. 44 00:01:36.470 --> 00:01:40.590 Nancy is counter suing Thomas for emotional distress. 45 00:01:40.610 --> 00:01:41.770 - All right Mr. Teichert, 46 00:01:41.790 --> 00:01:46.000 you are suing Ms. Slack for an unpaid car loan. 47 00:01:46.020 --> 00:01:46.870 - That is correct. 48 00:01:46.890 --> 00:01:47.790 - And Ms. Slack, 49 00:01:47.810 --> 00:01:50.790 you are counter suing for emotional distress. 50 00:01:50.810 --> 00:01:51.620 Is that the case? 51 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:53.030 - Correct yes. 52 00:01:53.050 --> 00:01:55.220 - What's your relationship with the defendant sir? 53 00:01:55.240 --> 00:01:57.510 - Nancy's worked for me on and off 54 00:01:57.530 --> 00:01:58.890 for four or five years. 55 00:01:58.910 --> 00:02:01.520 - So you decided that you're gonna offer the car 56 00:02:01.540 --> 00:02:02.350 to the defendant? 57 00:02:02.370 --> 00:02:04.380 - Yeah it was kind of a win-win situation. 58 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:05.310 - What kind of car was it? 59 00:02:05.330 --> 00:02:07.860 - It's a 1998 Monte Carlo. 60 00:02:07.880 --> 00:02:10.240 - And what was the agreement about the car ma'am? 61 00:02:10.260 --> 00:02:15.200 - The agreement was that I would make 14 payments 62 00:02:15.220 --> 00:02:18.810 of $235.72. 63 00:02:18.830 --> 00:02:20.900 - What was your relationship like with the plaintiff 64 00:02:20.920 --> 00:02:22.130 before you bought the car? 65 00:02:22.150 --> 00:02:23.330 - It was good. 66 00:02:23.350 --> 00:02:25.780 We respected each other. 67 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:27.250 - Was he a good employer? 68 00:02:27.270 --> 00:02:28.120 - Yes. 69 00:02:28.140 --> 00:02:30.280 - So when did you take possession of the car? 70 00:02:30.300 --> 00:02:35.120 - November 6th of 2009. 71 00:02:35.140 --> 00:02:36.610 - What was the condition of the car? 72 00:02:36.630 --> 00:02:41.960 - It sounded good and however when you increased speed 73 00:02:41.980 --> 00:02:45.210 to get on the freeway it would be really sluggish 74 00:02:45.230 --> 00:02:46.910 and kind of sputter. 75 00:02:46.930 --> 00:02:50.510 So anyway we went down to we're traveling back and forth 76 00:02:50.530 --> 00:02:51.710 from the Chandler Mall 77 00:02:51.730 --> 00:02:53.950 because it's like a two hour bus drive. 78 00:02:53.970 --> 00:02:59.220 So that was initially why we went ahead and got the car, 79 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:02.230 cause that would facilitate us getting to and from work. 80 00:03:02.250 --> 00:03:05.250 - I read your pleadings and I understand 81 00:03:05.270 --> 00:03:07.840 that you allowed the defendant to test drive 82 00:03:07.860 --> 00:03:08.980 the car for a while. 83 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:10.040 - Yeah they had the car. 84 00:03:10.060 --> 00:03:11.890 - Okay how long did you test drive the car? 85 00:03:11.910 --> 00:03:12.720 - 18 days. 86 00:03:12.740 --> 00:03:13.680 - Did you have any problems? 87 00:03:13.700 --> 00:03:15.810 - It looked like it was gonna be fine 88 00:03:15.830 --> 00:03:20.560 except when you increased the speed over 45 MPH 89 00:03:20.580 --> 00:03:24.340 it was just sluggish and it kind of paused. 90 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:26.280 - Did you tell the plaintiff about that? 91 00:03:26.300 --> 00:03:27.110 - Yes we did. 92 00:03:27.130 --> 00:03:29.260 - And what did you do when she told you about that? 93 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:31.520 - I told her bring it into a mechanic and I'll fix it. 94 00:03:31.540 --> 00:03:32.520 Which I did. 95 00:03:32.540 --> 00:03:33.360 - And you did? 96 00:03:33.380 --> 00:03:34.540 And did you pay for the repairs? 97 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:36.170 - I paid for the repairs. 98 00:03:36.190 --> 00:03:37.010 - How much? 99 00:03:37.030 --> 00:03:38.130 - $207.00. 100 00:03:38.150 --> 00:03:41.950 - Okay and this is before she actually buys the car? 101 00:03:41.970 --> 00:03:44.830 - I believe it was a couple days afterwards 102 00:03:44.850 --> 00:03:46.810 that they took possession of it 103 00:03:46.830 --> 00:03:49.640 that we ended up taking to the mechanic. 104 00:03:49.660 --> 00:03:51.180 So they owned, 105 00:03:51.200 --> 00:03:52.010 they're working for me, 106 00:03:52.030 --> 00:03:53.640 I wanna make sure that they have a good car 107 00:03:53.660 --> 00:03:54.490 for transportation. 108 00:03:54.510 --> 00:03:56.480 - Okay now how did you sell the car to her. 109 00:03:56.500 --> 00:03:57.310 Did you sell it as-is? 110 00:03:57.330 --> 00:03:59.010 - I sold it to them as-is. 111 00:03:59.030 --> 00:04:00.290 - No warranties at all? 112 00:04:00.310 --> 00:04:01.130 - Correct. 113 00:04:01.150 --> 00:04:02.800 - Was that your understanding? 114 00:04:02.820 --> 00:04:05.370 You were buying this car as-is with no warranty? 115 00:04:05.390 --> 00:04:08.540 - It was my understanding that the car 116 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:10.180 was in good working condition 117 00:04:10.200 --> 00:04:12.160 and that when his mechanic fixed it 118 00:04:12.180 --> 00:04:15.310 prior to us entering into the sales contract 119 00:04:15.330 --> 00:04:20.640 that the vehicle was fixed but it was not. 120 00:04:20.660 --> 00:04:22.780 - Your Honor they bought it as-is 121 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:25.580 and our mechanic did look at it. 122 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:27.990 It's on her to make sure 123 00:04:28.010 --> 00:04:30.750 that it's in perfect working condition 124 00:04:30.770 --> 00:04:32.930 if she's so concerned. 125 00:04:32.950 --> 00:04:35.780 It had 160,000 miles on it so there's bound to be some 126 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:38.890 bruises on the car. 127 00:04:38.910 --> 00:04:41.340 - Okay according to the agreement that you had, 128 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:48.140 the defendant was to make 14 payments of $235.71 129 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:49.780 and if she was ever 10 days late 130 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:52.050 she would pay $50 late fees, is that right? 131 00:04:52.070 --> 00:04:52.880 - That's correct. 132 00:04:52.900 --> 00:04:54.210 - Did you make the payments? 133 00:04:54.230 --> 00:04:56.340 - In the beginning I did make the payments. 134 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:57.980 - [Judge Karen] Okay the payments? 135 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.400 - Of $235.71. 136 00:05:00.420 --> 00:05:02.710 - And the payments were to begin in November. 137 00:05:02.730 --> 00:05:04.110 - Yes your Honor. 138 00:05:04.130 --> 00:05:08.280 - So the first payment was due November 1st for 2009. 139 00:05:08.300 --> 00:05:10.060 - No the first payment was due November 25th. 140 00:05:10.080 --> 00:05:12.240 - Okay did you make the payment? 141 00:05:12.260 --> 00:05:13.370 - No I did not. 142 00:05:13.390 --> 00:05:15.760 - Why didn't you make the payment November 25th? 143 00:05:15.780 --> 00:05:19.080 - Because I wasn't getting paid minimum wage. 144 00:05:19.100 --> 00:05:22.270 And working for him at the Chandler Mall. 145 00:05:22.290 --> 00:05:23.190 - She went on straight commission. 146 00:05:23.210 --> 00:05:25.660 - Are you saying that you didn't make the payments 147 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.820 for two months because you didn't have the money? 148 00:05:28.840 --> 00:05:34.770 - And with his agreement and when I go my tax return back 149 00:05:34.790 --> 00:05:38.650 I made all the payments plus some of our commission, 150 00:05:38.670 --> 00:05:44.650 $110 of commission money went towards the car payment 151 00:05:44.670 --> 00:05:46.120 152 00:05:46.140 --> 00:05:48.000 for February. 153 00:05:48.020 --> 00:05:50.010 - Let me stop you. 154 00:05:50.030 --> 00:05:51.330 Did you tell her that you can be late 155 00:05:51.350 --> 00:05:54.060 cause I understand you don't have any money. 156 00:05:54.080 --> 00:05:57.040 Did you tell her she could make her first two payments late? 157 00:05:57.060 --> 00:05:57.970 - No. 158 00:05:57.990 --> 00:05:59.380 (upbeat music) 159 00:05:59.400 --> 00:06:01.700 [Narrator] When Judge Karen's Court continues. 160 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:02.540 - And what did you do because she wasn't paying? 161 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:03.900 - Go to their home. 162 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:04.730 Knock on their door. 163 00:06:04.750 --> 00:06:06.680 - He did more than just knock on my door. 164 00:06:06.700 --> 00:06:08.470 He knocked on my neighbor's doors. 165 00:06:08.490 --> 00:06:10.230 He looked in my bedroom window. 166 00:06:10.250 --> 00:06:11.720 [Narrator] And later, 167 00:06:11.740 --> 00:06:16.370 a sweet old later gets sour on this peeping Tom. 168 00:06:16.390 --> 00:06:19.450 - I'm here to testify that it was this man, 169 00:06:19.470 --> 00:06:20.500 Tom, 170 00:06:20.520 --> 00:06:21.840 that was knockin' on my door. 171 00:06:21.860 --> 00:06:23.120 - It's a lie your Honor. 172 00:06:23.140 --> 00:06:24.810 - Well she's got your picture in her hand. 173 00:06:24.830 --> 00:06:30.810 (audience laughing) 174 00:06:30.830 --> 00:06:28.740 175 00:06:28.760 --> 00:06:30.190 (upbeat music) 176 00:06:30.210 --> 00:06:32.510 [Narrator] You're back in Judge Karen's Court 177 00:06:32.530 --> 00:06:34.490 as plaintiff Thomas Teichert sues his former co-worker 178 00:06:34.510 --> 00:06:36.790 for the remaining payments on a car sale. 179 00:06:36.810 --> 00:06:38.670 Defendant Nancy Slack argues Thomas sold her a lemon. 180 00:06:38.690 --> 00:06:40.820 Then stalked and harassed her. 181 00:06:40.840 --> 00:06:45.510 So she's counter suing for emotional distress. 182 00:06:45.530 --> 00:06:48.620 - Okay but then you tell me that in January 183 00:06:48.640 --> 00:06:50.100 you made a payment. 184 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:51.360 Is that right? 185 00:06:51.380 --> 00:06:54.170 - I made all of my payments current plus late fees. 186 00:06:54.190 --> 00:06:55.400 - In January? 187 00:06:55.420 --> 00:06:58.850 - In January and $110 towards February's payment. 188 00:06:58.870 --> 00:06:59.870 - Okay is that true? 189 00:06:59.890 --> 00:07:01.000 - Your Honor if I could interject. 190 00:07:01.020 --> 00:07:02.190 - Yes. 191 00:07:02.210 --> 00:07:04.010 - November came and gone. 192 00:07:04.030 --> 00:07:05.310 December came and went. 193 00:07:05.330 --> 00:07:08.430 So in January is when I started giving them calls 194 00:07:08.450 --> 00:07:09.290 and that sort of thing. 195 00:07:09.310 --> 00:07:10.410 - You were calling her? 196 00:07:10.430 --> 00:07:11.270 - Calling her. 197 00:07:11.290 --> 00:07:13.350 I was getting concerned because they were not 198 00:07:13.370 --> 00:07:14.390 returning the calls. 199 00:07:14.410 --> 00:07:18.430 - How many calls did you make? 200 00:07:18.450 --> 00:07:20.290 - A dozen or so probably. 201 00:07:20.310 --> 00:07:22.020 - Were you not returning his phone calls? 202 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:25.970 - I pretty much kept it if he called me I called him back. 203 00:07:25.990 --> 00:07:30.330 - Okay but he's telling me he's calling you 204 00:07:30.350 --> 00:07:33.930 and you're telling me you're talking to him. 205 00:07:33.950 --> 00:07:35.960 Is it an alternate universe? 206 00:07:35.980 --> 00:07:38.050 Did you talk to her at all? 207 00:07:38.070 --> 00:07:39.220 - [Nancy] I think so. 208 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:40.050 - No. 209 00:07:40.070 --> 00:07:40.890 - You think so? 210 00:07:40.910 --> 00:07:42.570 You think so? 211 00:07:42.590 --> 00:07:49.160 - Well he definitely has a different look at-- 212 00:07:49.180 --> 00:07:50.470 - They weren't returning my calls, 213 00:07:50.490 --> 00:07:51.880 so I was getting kinda concerned. 214 00:07:51.900 --> 00:07:53.080 So I decided to-- - So what did you do? 215 00:07:53.100 --> 00:07:54.560 - Go to their home. 216 00:07:54.580 --> 00:07:56.020 Knock on their door. 217 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:57.840 They answer the door, 218 00:07:57.860 --> 00:08:00.020 they were very polite 219 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:02.180 and they said hey they're sorry, 220 00:08:02.200 --> 00:08:03.010 invited me in. 221 00:08:03.030 --> 00:08:04.110 - You remember that, 222 00:08:04.130 --> 00:08:06.090 when he came and you were polite? 223 00:08:06.110 --> 00:08:06.920 - Yes. 224 00:08:06.940 --> 00:08:08.970 - He came in and then what happened? 225 00:08:08.990 --> 00:08:10.870 - They apologized. 226 00:08:10.890 --> 00:08:12.710 - Did you apologize? 227 00:08:12.730 --> 00:08:13.540 - I did. 228 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:17.790 - Okay. 229 00:08:17.810 --> 00:08:19.040 It's like pullin' teeth with you two really. 230 00:08:19.060 --> 00:08:21.510 - Did you tell him you were gonna start 231 00:08:21.530 --> 00:08:22.340 payin' him the money? 232 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:23.180 - I did, 233 00:08:23.200 --> 00:08:25.220 I told him I was getting my tax return back 234 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:26.760 and I would be able to bring it current 235 00:08:26.780 --> 00:08:29.980 and I should be able to keep it going. 236 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:32.620 - So in the middle of January they did make their payment. 237 00:08:32.640 --> 00:08:34.400 And they got caught up. 238 00:08:34.420 --> 00:08:36.240 - Okay now let's go to February. 239 00:08:36.260 --> 00:08:37.360 You make the payment? 240 00:08:37.380 --> 00:08:39.160 - No I did not make that payment. 241 00:08:39.180 --> 00:08:40.610 - Why didn't you make the payment in February ma'am? 242 00:08:40.630 --> 00:08:45.060 - The vehicle was not able to be driven 243 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:47.110 because it was mechanically unsound, 244 00:08:47.130 --> 00:08:48.960 it was a lemon, 245 00:08:48.980 --> 00:08:50.030 it was very, 246 00:08:50.050 --> 00:08:54.010 very difficult to pay for a vehicle 247 00:08:54.030 --> 00:08:55.890 when it didn't work. 248 00:08:55.910 --> 00:08:57.920 - The reason why you didn't pay 249 00:08:57.940 --> 00:09:00.520 is because the car wasn't working for you. 250 00:09:00.540 --> 00:09:01.480 - That is correct. 251 00:09:01.500 --> 00:09:03.700 - Okay and what did you do because she wasn't paying? 252 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:05.990 - That's obviously when the phone calls started again. 253 00:09:06.010 --> 00:09:07.460 - You started calling her? 254 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:08.290 - I started calling her. 255 00:09:08.310 --> 00:09:11.060 - Was she answerin' the phone? 256 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:11.890 - No. 257 00:09:11.910 --> 00:09:13.510 - Were you not answering his calls? 258 00:09:13.530 --> 00:09:16.300 - He has his phone records there. 259 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:19.220 Then you can see that I did return his phone calls. 260 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:22.650 - Okay so do you have the phone records for February sir? 261 00:09:22.670 --> 00:09:23.480 - Yes I do ma'am. 262 00:09:23.500 --> 00:09:24.310 - May I see them please. 263 00:09:24.330 --> 00:09:25.140 - Sure. 264 00:09:25.160 --> 00:09:30.410 - Would you pass those up? 265 00:09:30.430 --> 00:09:36.020 March 4th I see you called her at 1:18 again at 1:18, 266 00:09:36.040 --> 00:09:42.100 again at 1:18 and never connected. 267 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:43.040 - If you look at those, 268 00:09:43.060 --> 00:09:45.220 those are also probably her phone number 269 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:46.730 and also her boyfriend's phone number 270 00:09:46.750 --> 00:09:50.360 so if I didn't reach her, then I would try her boyfriend. 271 00:09:50.380 --> 00:09:54.200 - I see on March 6th another outgoing call from you, 272 00:09:54.220 --> 00:09:55.480 another outgoing call, 273 00:09:55.500 --> 00:09:57.520 all less than a minute. 274 00:09:57.540 --> 00:10:02.190 And then there was an incoming call from her 275 00:10:02.210 --> 00:10:04.710 on March the 6th that was five minutes long. 276 00:10:04.730 --> 00:10:06.070 Remember that conversation? 277 00:10:06.090 --> 00:10:06.900 - I don't. 278 00:10:06.920 --> 00:10:08.180 - Do you remember it? 279 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:09.760 I guess you do, cause you said you talked to him. 280 00:10:09.780 --> 00:10:11.190 What did you tell him? 281 00:10:11.210 --> 00:10:14.080 - I told him that the vehicle is undrivable, 282 00:10:14.100 --> 00:10:16.250 it's not legal to drive it on the street 283 00:10:16.270 --> 00:10:18.680 cause I could not get it fixed. 284 00:10:18.700 --> 00:10:22.960 By the time the payment was due February 20th, 285 00:10:22.980 --> 00:10:27.320 it was like I had an epiphany 286 00:10:27.340 --> 00:10:30.150 and why should I pay for a vehicle that doesn't work. 287 00:10:30.170 --> 00:10:31.620 - Did she contact you anymore? 288 00:10:31.640 --> 00:10:32.450 - No. 289 00:10:32.470 --> 00:10:33.630 - Okay so you're makin' all these calls. 290 00:10:33.650 --> 00:10:35.890 Calls after calls she doesn't contact you, 291 00:10:35.910 --> 00:10:36.720 then what do you do? 292 00:10:36.740 --> 00:10:37.910 - I went and knocked on their door. 293 00:10:37.930 --> 00:10:38.830 - Okay what happened? 294 00:10:38.850 --> 00:10:40.130 - They didn't answer. 295 00:10:40.150 --> 00:10:41.390 - So you're knocking at the door, 296 00:10:41.410 --> 00:10:42.570 there's no answer. 297 00:10:42.590 --> 00:10:43.780 - He did more than just knock on my door. 298 00:10:43.800 --> 00:10:45.770 He knocked on my neighbor's doors. 299 00:10:45.790 --> 00:10:47.820 He looked in my bedroom window. 300 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:49.790 I was in bed sick. 301 00:10:49.810 --> 00:10:50.980 - Why didn't you answer the door? 302 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:54.190 - Because I didn't feel that I had to. 303 00:10:54.210 --> 00:10:57.150 Made me angry that he's harassing me 304 00:10:57.170 --> 00:11:00.590 when he knows he sold me a bad vehicle. 305 00:11:00.610 --> 00:11:03.210 - How many times did you go over to her house? 306 00:11:03.230 --> 00:11:04.430 - Five or six different times. 307 00:11:04.450 --> 00:11:06.790 - Okay and at different hours of the day or night 308 00:11:06.810 --> 00:11:08.060 or did you go in the daytime? 309 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:09.520 - Well I was searching for the car 310 00:11:09.540 --> 00:11:11.240 because I was going to have it repossessed. 311 00:11:11.260 --> 00:11:12.070 - Oh okay. 312 00:11:12.090 --> 00:11:13.730 So you would always knock on her door? 313 00:11:13.750 --> 00:11:16.110 No I knocked on her door twice. 314 00:11:16.130 --> 00:11:18.110 - Okay what about her neighbor's doors? 315 00:11:18.130 --> 00:11:19.720 - I never knocked on her neighbor's doors. 316 00:11:19.740 --> 00:11:22.090 - Well I disagree. 317 00:11:22.110 --> 00:11:23.200 My neighbors, 318 00:11:23.220 --> 00:11:25.040 he did disturb 'em. 319 00:11:25.060 --> 00:11:26.580 It was in the evening time. 320 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:29.980 He grabbed my door handle, 321 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:32.180 tried to force his way in my front door. 322 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:34.170 - How was he trying to force his way in? 323 00:11:34.190 --> 00:11:37.500 - By trying to force the handle 324 00:11:37.520 --> 00:11:40.910 and I guess putting his shoulder against it. 325 00:11:40.930 --> 00:11:43.120 - Were you putting your shoulder against her door 326 00:11:43.140 --> 00:11:44.400 and trying to force your way in? 327 00:11:44.420 --> 00:11:45.230 - No ma'am. 328 00:11:45.250 --> 00:11:46.660 - And he was pounding on the door. 329 00:11:46.680 --> 00:11:47.540 - Pounding on the door. 330 00:11:47.560 --> 00:11:49.500 Was he saying anything? 331 00:11:49.520 --> 00:11:51.750 - No actually he didn't. 332 00:11:51.770 --> 00:11:56.600 He went back around our unit, 333 00:11:56.620 --> 00:12:00.920 he had his bright lights on shining into my home. 334 00:12:00.940 --> 00:12:03.980 [Narrator] Coming up on Judge Karen's Court. 335 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:06.720 - He disconnected my satellite dish. 336 00:12:06.740 --> 00:12:08.060 - Did you disconnect her dish? 337 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:08.890 - Yes I did. 338 00:12:08.910 --> 00:12:09.730 - Why did you disconnect her dish? 339 00:12:09.750 --> 00:12:11.270 - That's vandalism and-- 340 00:12:11.290 --> 00:12:13.260 - Will let-- 341 00:12:13.280 --> 00:12:14.810 So you thought if you shut down the TV 342 00:12:14.830 --> 00:12:16.070 that said come runnin' out? 343 00:12:16.090 --> 00:12:16.900 (audience laughing) 344 00:12:16.920 --> 00:12:18.170 Is that why you did it? 345 00:12:18.190 --> 00:12:19.910 You thought they'd come runnin' out 346 00:12:19.930 --> 00:12:22.110 because people are just obsessin' about cable, 347 00:12:22.130 --> 00:12:23.600 oh my God what happened to the cable? 348 00:12:23.620 --> 00:12:24.620 (audience laughing) 349 00:12:24.640 --> 00:12:25.470 Is that what you thought? 350 00:12:25.490 --> 00:12:29.310 - Perhaps right. 351 00:12:29.330 --> 00:12:32.210 - Before we hear anymore testimony 352 00:12:32.230 --> 00:12:33.940 (upbeat music) 353 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:35.890 Judge Karen's Court is back in session. 354 00:12:35.910 --> 00:12:40.470 As Thomas Teicherd claims former co-worker Nancy Slack 355 00:12:40.490 --> 00:12:43.880 owes him $2,135 for the car he sold her. 356 00:12:43.900 --> 00:12:45.970 Nancy says Thomas stalked and harassed her 357 00:12:45.990 --> 00:12:48.750 and is counter suing for emotional distress. 358 00:12:48.770 --> 00:12:53.300 - You sued for $9,000 in emotional distress. 359 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:54.130 - Yes. 360 00:12:54.150 --> 00:12:56.750 - And how did you come up with $9,900? 361 00:12:56.770 --> 00:12:57.960 What's the first thing? 362 00:12:57.980 --> 00:13:00.640 - For selling me a vehicle he knew 363 00:13:00.660 --> 00:13:02.780 was not in good condition. 364 00:13:02.800 --> 00:13:04.260 He sold me a lemon. 365 00:13:04.280 --> 00:13:05.370 - Okay that's emotional distress? 366 00:13:05.390 --> 00:13:06.990 So how much is that emotional distress worth? 367 00:13:07.010 --> 00:13:07.910 - $2,000. 368 00:13:07.930 --> 00:13:10.330 - Okay what's the next item for you emotional distress. 369 00:13:10.350 --> 00:13:11.400 - The next item, 370 00:13:11.420 --> 00:13:15.430 all of the harassing phone calls, 371 00:13:15.450 --> 00:13:18.770 I believe I put $900 on that. 372 00:13:18.790 --> 00:13:19.600 - Just for the calls? 373 00:13:19.620 --> 00:13:20.430 - Just for the calls. 374 00:13:20.450 --> 00:13:21.270 - Okay. 375 00:13:21.290 --> 00:13:25.540 - The $2,000 for not being able to drive the vehicle to work 376 00:13:25.560 --> 00:13:28.240 and to get legal tags, 377 00:13:28.260 --> 00:13:29.540 $2,000. 378 00:13:29.560 --> 00:13:31.280 - So that's about $5,000, 379 00:13:31.300 --> 00:13:33.410 we still got $4,900. 380 00:13:33.430 --> 00:13:38.740 - There was $1,500 for the criminal act 381 00:13:38.760 --> 00:13:43.620 of looking in my bedroom window as a peeping tom. 382 00:13:43.640 --> 00:13:50.400 - And $1,500 and the harassment and humiliation 383 00:13:50.420 --> 00:13:53.410 from my neighbors he bothered 384 00:13:53.430 --> 00:13:56.430 and disturbed and harassed twice. 385 00:13:56.450 --> 00:13:58.730 - So you're asking for emotional distress 386 00:13:58.750 --> 00:14:00.050 for your neighbors? 387 00:14:00.070 --> 00:14:01.050 (audience laughing) 388 00:14:01.070 --> 00:14:03.210 You want emotional distress for your neighbors? 389 00:14:03.230 --> 00:14:05.490 - For humiliating me in front of my neighbors. 390 00:14:05.510 --> 00:14:09.590 And also he disconnected my satellite dish. 391 00:14:09.610 --> 00:14:11.310 - Did you disconnect her dish? 392 00:14:11.330 --> 00:14:12.150 - Yes I did. 393 00:14:12.170 --> 00:14:12.980 - Why did you disconnect her dish? 394 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:14.180 - And that's vandalism. 395 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:16.450 - Well let-- 396 00:14:16.470 --> 00:14:17.820 So you thought if you shut down the TV 397 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:19.250 that said come runnin' out. 398 00:14:19.270 --> 00:14:21.290 Is that why you did it? 399 00:14:21.310 --> 00:14:23.650 You thought they'd come runnin' out because people 400 00:14:23.670 --> 00:14:25.110 are just obsessive about cable, 401 00:14:25.130 --> 00:14:27.500 oh my God what happened to the cable? 402 00:14:27.520 --> 00:14:28.890 Is that what you thought? 403 00:14:28.910 --> 00:14:30.170 - Perhaps right. 404 00:14:30.190 --> 00:14:31.120 (audience laughing) 405 00:14:31.140 --> 00:14:32.730 - I understand you have two witnesses here. 406 00:14:32.750 --> 00:14:33.560 - Yes ma'am I do. 407 00:14:33.580 --> 00:14:34.940 - Who is the first witness? 408 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:38.410 - The first witness is my neighbor Kay. 409 00:14:38.430 --> 00:14:40.410 - I understand that Kay has provided us 410 00:14:40.430 --> 00:14:42.030 with video testimony. 411 00:14:42.050 --> 00:14:42.860 - Yes ma'am. 412 00:14:42.880 --> 00:14:44.300 - Have you had an opportunity to see the video? 413 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:45.140 - I have not. 414 00:14:45.160 --> 00:14:46.450 - Well I haven't either so we'll see it together. 415 00:14:46.470 --> 00:14:47.870 And if you have any questions 416 00:14:47.890 --> 00:14:49.460 then we'll have to deal with that. 417 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:50.920 - Okay. 418 00:14:50.940 --> 00:14:56.320 - My name is Kay Wood and I am 76 years old. 419 00:14:56.340 --> 00:14:59.540 I live right next door to Nancy Slack. 420 00:14:59.560 --> 00:15:02.890 I'm here to testify that it was this man, 421 00:15:02.910 --> 00:15:03.910 Tom, 422 00:15:03.930 --> 00:15:05.430 that was knockin' on my door 423 00:15:05.450 --> 00:15:09.540 on more than a couple occasions late at night. 424 00:15:09.560 --> 00:15:11.620 After he would bang on my door, 425 00:15:11.640 --> 00:15:15.490 I would look out my peep hole 426 00:15:15.510 --> 00:15:16.970 and I could see him go door to door 427 00:15:16.990 --> 00:15:23.410 harassing other neighbors as well. 428 00:15:23.430 --> 00:15:24.440 - That's a lie your Honor. 429 00:15:24.460 --> 00:15:26.380 - Well she's got your picture in her hand. 430 00:15:26.400 --> 00:15:27.250 (audience laughing) 431 00:15:27.270 --> 00:15:30.890 - Kay says that you went from door to door 432 00:15:30.910 --> 00:15:31.840 knock knock knockin'. 433 00:15:31.860 --> 00:15:35.370 - I never once ever have knocked on a neighbors door, 434 00:15:35.390 --> 00:15:36.200 not once. 435 00:15:36.220 --> 00:15:38.700 - Well we don't have Kay here and that's what Kay said. 436 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:39.530 Let me get to the contract. 437 00:15:39.550 --> 00:15:40.780 Do you have a copy of the contract? 438 00:15:40.800 --> 00:15:42.510 - [Thomas] Yes I do your Honor. 439 00:15:42.530 --> 00:15:48.240 (papers rustling) 440 00:15:48.260 --> 00:15:54.180 She agreed to pay $235.71 for 14 months. 441 00:15:54.200 --> 00:16:00.930 And $50 a month if she was more than 10 days late. 442 00:16:00.950 --> 00:16:04.260 It says seller has no knowledge of any hidden defects 443 00:16:04.280 --> 00:16:06.750 in and into the vehicle except those 444 00:16:06.770 --> 00:16:09.730 already acknowledged by the buyer. 445 00:16:09.750 --> 00:16:11.850 And believes to the best of the seller's knowledge 446 00:16:11.870 --> 00:16:14.380 that the vehicle being sold as-is 447 00:16:14.400 --> 00:16:18.910 and in good operating condition. 448 00:16:18.930 --> 00:16:22.410 Well is it as-is or is it in good operating condition? 449 00:16:22.430 --> 00:16:24.100 - Well we sold it as-is. 450 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:25.820 - But in good operating condition. 451 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:26.650 - [Thomas] And it was in good operating condition. 452 00:16:26.670 --> 00:16:28.110 - Yeah but it's not both. 453 00:16:28.130 --> 00:16:31.930 It's either as-is or it's in good operating condition. 454 00:16:31.950 --> 00:16:36.410 So this is very ambiguous the way this contract was drafted. 455 00:16:36.430 --> 00:16:39.880 (upbeat music) 456 00:16:39.900 --> 00:16:40.710 [Narrator] When we return 457 00:16:40.730 --> 00:16:45.520 Judge Karen will render her verdict. 458 00:16:45.540 --> 00:16:47.190 (upbeat music) 459 00:16:47.210 --> 00:16:48.020 During the commercial break, 460 00:16:48.040 --> 00:16:49.290 the courtroom gallery voted 461 00:16:49.310 --> 00:16:51.680 for whom they thought would win this dispute. 462 00:16:51.700 --> 00:16:54.550 And now here's how they call the case. 463 00:16:54.570 --> 00:17:00.300 (upbeat music) 464 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:05.870 - Now let's talk about your emotional distress. 465 00:17:05.890 --> 00:17:08.820 I don't think you've proven to me emotional distress. 466 00:17:08.840 --> 00:17:12.840 - He tried breaking in my home. 467 00:17:12.860 --> 00:17:14.170 It was a criminal act, 468 00:17:14.190 --> 00:17:17.450 a sexual criminal act for him to look in my bedroom window. 469 00:17:17.470 --> 00:17:20.750 He vandalized my dish. 470 00:17:20.770 --> 00:17:24.020 - You know what can I say this? 471 00:17:24.040 --> 00:17:28.260 If you have bought this car from a reputable dealer 472 00:17:28.280 --> 00:17:29.580 and you weren't payin', 473 00:17:29.600 --> 00:17:31.840 that's how they would've tried to get their car back. 474 00:17:31.860 --> 00:17:35.260 And according to your contract with him, 475 00:17:35.280 --> 00:17:38.070 he had a right to repossess the car. 476 00:17:38.090 --> 00:17:41.900 So it seems to me that he was looking for that car. 477 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:43.920 Looking for you because you had that car 478 00:17:43.940 --> 00:17:46.010 in order to repossess the car. 479 00:17:46.030 --> 00:17:47.660 And I don't think you've proven to me 480 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:50.230 that he has some sort of sexual lust 481 00:17:50.250 --> 00:17:51.480 in his mind when he was-- 482 00:17:51.500 --> 00:17:52.350 - I'm not talking, 483 00:17:52.370 --> 00:17:54.030 I'm talking about criminal act. 484 00:17:54.050 --> 00:17:55.630 - Ms. Slack I'm ready to rule. 485 00:17:55.650 --> 00:17:59.440 I believe that the plaintiff has proven his case 486 00:17:59.460 --> 00:18:01.250 by a preponderance of the evidence, 487 00:18:01.270 --> 00:18:03.660 which is a standard of proof in a civil case. 488 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.020 And my judgment is for the plaintiff 489 00:18:06.040 --> 00:18:09.940 in the amount of $2,135.68. 490 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:10.800 (gavel hitting podium) 491 00:18:10.820 --> 00:18:11.810 Good luck to ya'. 492 00:18:11.830 --> 00:18:12.640 - Thank you your Honor. 493 00:18:12.660 --> 00:18:14.830 (upbeat music) 494 00:18:14.850 --> 00:18:24.790 [Narrator] More to come in Judge Karen's Court. 495 00:18:24.810 --> 00:18:26.140 (upbeat music) 496 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:28.120 - I think Judge Karen was able to see through the fluff 497 00:18:28.140 --> 00:18:29.910 and she got the right verdict. 498 00:18:29.930 --> 00:18:31.820 - I do believe he was a peeping tom. 499 00:18:31.840 --> 00:18:32.800 I know he was. 500 00:18:32.820 --> 00:18:34.220 He looked in my window. 501 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:35.080 It was a criminal act. 502 00:18:35.100 --> 00:18:36.490 - I wasn't a peeping tom. 503 00:18:36.510 --> 00:18:37.830 I was just checking to make sure 504 00:18:37.850 --> 00:18:39.550 that they had not moved out. 505 00:18:39.570 --> 00:18:42.260 - This did ruin the relationship between Tom and I. 506 00:18:42.280 --> 00:18:47.470 I had full faith that he was selling me a good vehicle. 507 00:18:47.490 --> 00:18:50.380 - And I'll never sell a car to a friend again. 508 00:18:50.400 --> 00:09:59.980 It's just not worth losing friendships over.